Watch Stephen Colbert’s interview with Bob Woodward on Fear

With Bob Woodward’s book on the current presidential administration now on sale, Stephen Colbert’s interview on The Late Show provides a great introduction.

If you’ve paid attention to the news as of late, you may have heard that Bob Woodward — legendary reporter and one-half of the team that broke the Watergate scandal — has a new book coming out titled Fear: Trump in the White House. Last night’s episode wasn’t the first time The Late Show with Stephen Colbert covered it, but it was the first night that Woodward actually stopped by to talk about Fear.

The Late Show is an hour-long show, and 20 of those minutes went to Woodward and Colbert talking about the book, its contents, and even a few historical references.

The interview starts in this 10-minute video:

Honestly, Colbert’s first question, about how on Earth people still think it’s a good idea to talk to Woodward, is probably one that a lot of people have. After all, Colbert manages to work in plenty of Woodward’s bona fides during the interview, including how many books he’s written (Fear is number 19), his Pulitzers (two), and how many presidents he’s covered (nine). People know who Woodward is.

But Woodward has his methods, including patience. “About the third visit, they come down with three boxes of documents,” he said, pointing out that he has time to dive deep into a story while daily reporters don’t necessarily have the same luxury.

However, the two shorter clips, each clocking in the five-minute range, contain their own standout moments. Here’s the first one:

Although the primary topic of this video has to do with the debate between getting information that’s off the record or instead on deep background, the moment that strikes perhaps hardest is that Woodward found the current iteration of the White House “shocking.” It seems as though Woodward shouldn’t experience that anymore, considering the political history that he’s lived through and reported on.

Finally, here’s the clip that contains the final line of the book:

That line is, “Dowd knew he could not bring himself to say to the president, ‘You’re a [expletive] liar.'” Meanwhile, the book opens on the widely-reported incident featuring Gary Cohn, who was then working at the White House, taking a letter off the president’s desk.

But in between, there’s a lot of information, and some of that comes out in the interviews, including several stories about South Korea’s relationship with the United States in particular. “This is the best reporting I can do,” Woodward concluded.

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert airs weeknights on CBS. Fear is on sale today.